islamisme en Australie

Ils sont décidément partout.
Et partout ils essaient de répendre leur idéologie nauséabonde. Mais ici, les autres musulmans ont affiché leur net rejet de telles positions.

Résumé à ma sauce pour les non angliscistes.
Al-Hilali a fait des excuses pour la forme, à cause du scandale. Mais il n'a pas quitté son poste, ce qui montre bien qu'il ne considère pas avoir dérapé. Les propos qu'il a tenus, c'est ce qu'il pense.
En gros, il estime normal qu'une fille qui n'est pas voilée se fasse violer, c'est comme laisser de la viande trainer à l'air, faut pas s'étonner qu'un chat vienne la manger. Et ce n'est pas de la faute au chat... En clair les "femelles", elle n'ont qu'à rester dans leur cuisine ou sous leur hijab, pour ne pas titiller les hormones en folie des "mâles". Si un homme la viole, ce sera de sa faute à elle.
Charmant n'est-ce pas?
ça vaut les propos d' un certain Bouziane, en France, sauf qu'ici il s'agit du type qui est "mufti" d'Australie. En tout cas divers responsables et associations musulmans ont condamné ses propos à travers toute l'Australie.

Australian Muslim cleric apologizes for remarks on women by Lawrence Bartlett
Thu Oct 26, 10:47 AM ET


SYDNEY (AFP) - Australia's most senior Islamic cleric issued an apology after triggering outrage for describing scantily-clad women without headscarves as "uncovered meat" inviting sexual attack.


The comments were condemned by other Muslim leaders and Prime Minister John Howard, while the government's sex discrimination commissioner said he should be deported.
"I unreservedly apologize to any woman who is offended by my comments," the cleric, Sheikh Taj Aldin al-Hilali said in a statement, after a backlash from politicians, community leaders and the Muslim community.
"I had only intended to protect women's honor, something lost in The Australian presentation of my talk," he said.
Al-Hilali made the comments in a Ramadan sermon to 500 worshippers last month in which he criticized women who "sway suggestively," wear make-up and no hijab or Islamic headscarf, The Australian newspaper reported.
"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?" he asked.
"The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."
Howard said the comments were "appalling and reprehensible," adding: "The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous."
Sex Discrimination Commissioner Pru Goward said Al-Hilali, who carries the title Mufti of Australia, had a history of making such comments and should be thrown out of the country, where bikinis and miniskirts colour a sundrenched lifestyle.
"It is incitement to a crime. Young Muslim men who now rape women can cite this in court, can quote this man, their leader in court," she told Australian television.
"It's time we stopped just saying he should apologize. It is time the Islamic community did more then say they were horrified. I think it's time he was asked to go."
Goward said she was not aware of the citizenship status of the Egyptian-born cleric who arrived in Australia in 1982 from Lebanon.
Islamic groups quickly disassociated themselves from Al-Hilaly's remarks.
The Islamic Council of New South Wales, which includes Sydney, called the comments "un-Islamic, un-Australian and unacceptable."
Islamic Council of Victoria spokesman Waleed Aly predicted a backlash against Muslims, saying: "I am expecting a deluge of hate mail. I am expecting people to get abused in the street and get abused at work."
Australia last month announced plans to toughen its citizenship policies, but denied that new demands requiring immigrants to pledge allegiance to "Australian values" were aimed specifically at Muslims.
Under the government blueprint immigrants will have to sit a 45-minute test covering their competency in English and issues such as democracy, the rule of law and the equality of men and women.
The move came after repeated complaints by Howard that some members of Australia's 300,000-strong Muslim community refused to fully integrate into society.
Howard has expressed fears that Australia could face an attack by local Muslims similar to the July 2005 London suicide bombings by young British Muslims that killed 56 people.
Like Britain, Australia contributed troops to the US-led invasions of both Afghanistan and Iraq, and has been vilified by Islamic militants.
More than 20 Muslims are facing charges under anti-terrorism legislation adopted after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.









Australian cleric says won't quit over comments on women by Marc Lavine
Fri Oct 27, 6:51 AM ET


SYDNEY (AFP) - Australia's highest Islamic cleric has refused to resign for remarks comparing scantily-clad women to "uncovered meat" as Prime Minister John Howard urged Muslims to act to defend their image.

Sheikh Taj Aldin al-Hilali, who has been forced to stop preaching for up to three months amid a firestorm of criticism, said he would only step down when the world was "clean" of the White House.
Howard urged the Muslim community to act fast to repudiate his assertions and avoid tarnishing its image in Australian society, saying an apology was not enough.
"What I am saying to the Islamic community is this: If they do not resolve this matter, it could do lasting damage to the perceptions of that community within the broader Australian community," he told Southern Cross Broadcasting Friday.
"If it is not resolved, then unfortunately people will run around saying 'Well the reason they didn't get rid of him is because secretly some of them support his views'," Howard warned.
After an emergency meeting of Islamic community leaders at the mosque where Hilali made the comments during a sermon last month, the 64-year-old Mufti of Australia agreed to a two- to three-month break from preaching.
"We feel at this stage that is only fair that he be stood down for the next couple of months," said Abdul El Ayoubi, of the Lebanese Muslim Association, which administers the Lakemba mosque where the cleric is based.
"He has got the Hajj trip that's coming up in a month-and-a-half so he will be away. And it will only add fuel to the fire if he continues in the interim to give sermons," he added.
But community leaders refused to sack Egyptian-born Hilali, prompting calls from inside and outside the Islamic community for his resignation.
A day after issuing an apology in which he said his remarks had been misinterpreted, Hilali, who has made headlines with verbal attacks on the US-led war on Iraq, was quizzed by reporters following Friday prayers whether he would resign.
"After we clean the world of the White House first," he responded to a loud barrage of cheers and applause from supporters.
In remarks during a Ramadan sermon last month, published in English by The Australian newspaper on Thursday, Hilali criticised women who "sway suggestively", wear make-up and no hijab or Islamic headscarf.
"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?" he said.
In Thursday's apology he said the comments were meant simply to discourage extra-marital sex.
"I unreservedly apologise to any woman who is offended by my comments," he added. "I had only intended to protect women's honour, something lost in The Australian presentation of my talk."
The incident is dividing the Muslim community in Australia, which is trying to mend rifts exposed by the country's worst-ever race riots in December when white residents clashed with youths of Middle Eastern extraction in Sydney.
Some community members were unhappy with the decision not to take action.
"There were a few items there we didn't fully accept," said Lebanese Muslim Association president Tom Zreika, explaining that the decision to suspend his sermons was mutually agreed.
"Some people on the board would have liked to see more done but unfortunately we can only speak as a board," he said.
Outraged Australian media attacked al-Hilali, with the tabloid Daily Telegraph as "heartless" and "ignorant," while The Australian said "Sheik Hilali has forfeited the right to lead Australia's Muslims".
But the mufti's supporters defended him.
"We're certainly not going to pass judgment on the basis of one comment in which we know his intentions were completely different," said Keysar Trad, the president of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia.
"The grassroots are behind him."
Howard said that despite the apology, most Australians were appalled.
"I think what he's done is so unacceptable and so out of line with not only mainstream Australian opinion but ... mainstream Muslim opinion," he said.

Il a quand même fini par dégager...
C'est vraiment un islamiste gravos de première, celui-là...
lundi 30 octobre 2006, 11h00
Australie: le mufti controversé prend congé sous la pression
Par Marc LAVINE

SYDNEY (AFP) - Le mufti d'Australie a sollicité lundi sa "mise en congé indéfinie" après ses propos insultants sur les femmes qui lui ont valu les critiques de la classe politique et l'hostilité déclarée d'une partie de sa communauté.

Cette décision "est venue de lui et non de notre part", a affirmé à la radio australienne ABC Tom Zreika, le président de l'Association libanaise musulmane (ALM) qui a réfuté toute destitution du mufti par ses pairs.

"Je prendrai, en temps voulu, les décisions qui s'imposent pour alléger les pressions qui s'exercent sur les musulmans d'Australie et qui bénéficieront à tous les Australiens", a déclaré le Cheikh Taj Aldin al-Hilali dans un communiqué. Le texte a été lu aux journalistes par le président de l'ALM devant l'hôpital Canterbury de Sydney où le religieux a été admis lundi pour un léger malaise survenu avant une réunion avec des responsables musulmans. L'ALM est en charge de la mosquée Lakemba de Sydney, où prêche le muft "S'il veut démissionner, cette décision lui revient", a ajouté M. Zreika.

Depuis cinq jours, le plus haut dignitaire musulman du pays est sous un feu roulant de critiques après la révélation par le quotidien The Australian de ses propos sur les femmes légèrement vêtues comparées à "de la viande à l'air" incitant au viol.

"Si vous placez de la viande dans la rue, dans le jardin ou dans un parc sans la couvrir et que les chats viennent la manger... qui doit-on blâmer, les chats ou la viande à l'air ?", avait-il lancé le mois dernier devant 500 musulmans. Il s'est à nouveau excusé lundi pour ses propos, décrivant cette fois les femmes comme "des perles adorées" et "les êtres les plus précieux au monde". Il avait jusque-là exclu de se démettre. Interrogé sur cette éventualité par des journalistes après la prière du vendredi, il avait rétorqué: "une fois que l'on aura rasé la Maison Blanche de la surface du globe", sous les applaudissements de ses partisans.

Le Premier ministre australien John Howard est monté au créneau la semaine dernière en exhortant les dirigeants musulmans à réagir rapidement pour éviter que cette affaire ne dégrade l'image d'une communauté entière forte de 300.000 personnes. Le mufti est coutumier des déclarations fracassantes.

Dans une interview donnée à une radio en langue arabe au début du mois, il avait fait l'apologie du jihad (guerre sainte). "Le jihad des libérateurs de la Palestine est le plus pur et le plus grand", avait-il dit. En juillet 2005, il avait déclaré au journal The Australian que les religieux radicaux constituaient "une maladie semblable au sida que l'on ne peut pas soigner avec de l'aspirine". Un mois plus tôt, l'homme, connu pour son hostilité à l'égard des Etats-Unis, s'était vanté d'être parvenu à négocier la libération d'un otage australien, Douglas Wood, kidnappé en Irak en avril 2005.

Ses différentes sorties lui ont coûté le soutien d'une grande partie de la communauté où certains réclamaient sa tête. "La bonne décision, c'est qu'il démissionne, et le plus tôt sera le mieux", a estimé le chef de file de la communauté libanaise, Jamal Rifi. "Lorsqu"il aura réalisé l'étendue de dégâts qu'il a provoqués au sein de la société, il prendra sa décision", a-t-il dit.